Monday, December 04, 2006

ECCA Meeting, 12/4

Quite a night at the ECCA meeting this evening!

The meeting was following the printed agenda until during ANC Commissioner Thorpe's presentation, he recognized one of the attendees, who made a motion that Mr. Thorpe be elected president. Since there was no election on the agenda, someone asked president of what? She said that she was nominating him for president of ECCA.

Most of the 20 or so people in attendance appeared stunned by this development, including current president Betty Newell who indicated that she had no idea that this was in the offing. A number of questions were asked about when the election was supposed to take place and what the procedures were, but others said that changing the agenda was legitimate. Mr. Thorpe (who was running the meeting at that point) called for the question and asked for those in attendance to raise their hands for, against, or abstain. I heard no numerical count, and it appeared that at least several people (self included) did not raise their hands at all. Mr. Thorpe was declared the winner. There was no election for the other offices of treasurer and public relations (currently held by Lillian Gordon and Eloise Wahab, respectively) and no discussion of them. Mr. Thorpe is to take office in January.

The emotional temperature also was raised when during the police report, another attendee (and long-time Shaw resident) spoke about his car being broken into twice recently and, becoming more passionate, made some intemperate remarks that many interpreted as being disparaging about the neighborhood and used profane language in threatening what might happen if his car was broken into again. He then exited the meeting, followed by Mr. Thorpe. Many of those in attendance were offended by language, and several people remarked that this just proved the kind of attitude that too many people held. Mr. Thorpe returned and defended the person, saying he had known him for many years and that he had made a lot of contributions to the neighborhood and that he respected him for speaking what was on his mind.

There was also some discussion about last Saturday's workshop on crime held by the Ward 2 democrats. One of the ladies who attended it said was a very useful session that encouraged real dialogue that helped break down the us vs. them attitude. Mr. Thorpe (who had not been at the event) was more critical, which led the original speaker to suggest that he shouldn't be so negative as he had not been there to see what happened.

Sean Howard, who is the Fenty Transition's Ward 2 coordinator, also encouraged people to come to the town hall meeting for Ward 2 scheduled for Thursday evening at 6:30 at the Kennedy Recreation Center. He added that the mayor-elect is really looking for input from the community and that the meeting would be organized to elicit that. Mr. Thorpe asked how he could know what community concerns were if the transition team hadn't consulted community leaders such as himself and others. Mr. Howard replied that he and others on the team had been going door to door and that he thought they had been getting a pretty good sense of what people were concerned about. There was also some criticism that the town meeting had not been better publicized, which Mr. Howard admitted was at least partly justified. (This blog published a notice about it last week.)

The meeting provided a forum for Mr. Thorpe to serve notice (which he expressed quite plainly) that he would remain a major force in the community regardless of the outcome of the election recount to take place Thursday night. He indicated that his announced resignation as ANC chairman to take place at the Wednesday meeting would allow him to assure that one of his allies on the ANC would take his place, anticipating a commission evenly divided if his opponent, Kevin Chapple, were declared the winner after the recount. He said several times that those who opposed his re-election were "only screwing themselves." He also reiterated that there is a great need for a real dialogue within the community to try to bridge divisions.

14 Comments:

At 12/04/2006 8:32 PM, Blogger IMGoph said...

Leroy Thorpe sounds bitter. Perhaps he should take a break from "public service" and a long vacation.

 
At 12/05/2006 7:43 AM, Blogger si said...

Is this "election" even valid?? Doesnt ECCA have bylaws? MVSNA has very clear rules about elections, our bylaws would not allow what you just described.

 
At 12/05/2006 8:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please forgive my ignorance (I’m new to all of this. . .), but what exactly does the ECCA do? And relatedly, does this "election" matter, other than its letting LT believe he has neighborhood clout again?

Is there a lot of repetition in the purpose of all of these neighborhood groups (from the government ANC to Shaw Main Streets to, dare I even mention it, LT’s “Rhode Island Through P Street Neighborhood Association”)?

 
At 12/05/2006 8:29 AM, Blogger si said...

ECCA is the East Central Civic Association. I think they have been around for about 35 yrs. Roughly bounded by 7th, N, NJ, & RI. I only found out about them this year, they have never publicized anything on the web that I know of. MVSNA tried to work with them regarding the lack of lights in the park at NJ & O and I attended a few meetings. any info is posted on the MVSNA blog...
I dont think there is a lot of repetition actually. Shaw Main Streets is for the commercial revitilization of 7th & 9th st corridors, ECCA, MVSNA, Truxton, Bloomingdale, PQ etc for the most part do not overlap with the exception of MVSNA & Truxton a little. RI Ave Thru P...no idea. I have never seen any info regarding..I think Mary Sutherland is president? Then there is COPE, Leroy Thorpe's Red Hat Patrol.

 
At 12/05/2006 8:34 AM, Anonymous Charles W said...

I asked in the meeting whether ECCA has a consitution, if there is a concept of a quorum, who is entitled to vote (anybody who shows up, or members). I only got an answer to the last part - anybody in the meeting. So I have to assume that the bylaws are either nonexistant or covered in cobwebs.

ECCA is not part of the government, it's just people from the neighborhood. So I guess they can do whatever the hell they want as long as they are not getting public money.

That's the key part - not getting public money. We must prevent Thorpe from using the ANC meeting tomorrow to loot the ANC's budget and give money to ECCA and his other pet projects. I've never been to an ANC meeting, but this one tomorrow is an important one. I'm going.

 
At 12/05/2006 10:52 AM, Blogger richard said...

ECCA use to be very progressive, they had a social secretary Marie Collins who was(is)very social and neighborly. she moved to georgetown. the name of the president at the time of the convention center debate escapes me but he was the science teacher at dunbar who got into trouble(Hatch Act) because he had the NERVE to run against jack evans and he was hated by the establishemtn because he said according to the comprehensive plan the convention center is suppose to have parking for 400 cars when they only have 10 spaces for parking. he moved to potomac. then the coven of witches took over.

 
At 12/05/2006 11:16 AM, Anonymous YT said...

The question is, how do we stop LT at the meeting tomorrow?
if you care, BE THERE? Tell your friends ... The Little Trickster must be stopped. Bring your small, easily hidden personal recording devices, this shit may need to be recorded to be believed and maybe reversed if a new guard takes over next month.

 
At 12/05/2006 1:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. I would advise you to not denegrate or belittle LT. He is as smart man and a force to be reckoned with. His Third World brand of delivering services through personal petition will be no different than PDA-man Fenty's.
2. Civic and citizens' associations were established in the 1940's and 1950's as a grass roots form of de facto home rule to pick up where the Congressionally-appointed Commissioners left off. The former were organized for and by Blacks and the latter for and by Whites. Sometimes they cooperated, sometimes they clashed. The East Central Civic Association is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, in the city. It's relevance lies in the fact that it senses the pulse of popular sentiment and opinion. They were a big player in modulating the arson and looting of the neighborhood in 1968, which was hardly spontaneous.
3. I was the irate 20-year resident who blew the fuse, fed up with being mau-maued in race-coded lecture-meetings, sick of having my car being broken into, incensed at the Land of the Living Dead vagrants loitering around the many vacant properties around my house, angered at cops who don't come when called (only 4 cops on the beat on any good night!), and when they do come, tell me they can't do anything about the vagrants in Shiloh's vacant buildings because it might be some sort of church-based "community outreach." Bernie Goetz, where are you now? Ray M

 
At 12/05/2006 1:47 PM, Anonymous YT said...

Did Betty Newell vote for or against LT being POTECCA? If she voted for, maybe it was planned. If she voted against, ... well LT sure does know how to step on toes when folks get in the way of his ego. No one should trust him. But you get what you deserve.

 
At 12/05/2006 2:56 PM, Anonymous m. collins said...

Her Church expanded their real estate portfolio under her presidency. She had to be taken out. She didn't know it was coming.

 
At 12/05/2006 3:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the tutorial on the ECCA and its role.

Ray--I believe 5th and Oh said LT spoke with you privately at the meeting--did he say anything insightful about the crime situation? Also, for what it's worth, your problems are also my problems because we live close to one another, so I'm with you in the fight. Don't count on me to pull a Goetz, however. . .

 
At 12/05/2006 4:26 PM, Anonymous Yt said...

Blah, blah, blah Anony-mouse ray,

(1) I've already met LT's thugs, following me around while handing out non-LeroyThorpe.com fliers to inform the community about the more substantive issues in this election. Nothin' better to do with their lives than listen LT. ... They all know exactly where I live, ... so, since I'm a marked man, I'll say what I want. Tyrants hate for people to speak freely. Their sycophants just suck up to them wagging their tails til they get a bone or a crumb or a tree box.

And, Mr P Ithe good Godfather of 1400 5th St) still respects me as much, if not more than LT, so save your threats and scare tactics.

(2) The ECCA, despite it's historic significance, has become basically irrelevant because of bad [and now worse] leadership. Few people in the community even show up to those meetings because they are so tiresome and retarded.

LT rants about other people playing "games" and having "secrets", wft happened at ECCA last night? If those folks knew their heads from their tails, they could put out a substantive agenda to inform the community about what's going on. All LT ever does is talk about himself. He's an egomaniac, not a man of the community.

 
At 12/05/2006 4:59 PM, Anonymous Yt said...

Force ...
He doesn't have the force or the intelligence to be a better leader. That's completely beyound his Little Tether.
He can **** && ^^^^^ ### with force.

 
At 12/06/2006 7:27 AM, Blogger DaddyFiveOh said...

Okay, guys, time to reduce the flame. Enough with the names, and for God's sake, no more allusions to Bernie Goetz--that's the last thing anyone needs.

The mantra here is: "Keep it civil."

 

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